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Fair point. But I didn't want to be okay with getting rid of anyone forever. Felt like I needed to have at least some close allies eventually. I didn't realize Cole/Patrick were tight with Simone/Kim more than they were tight with me. Cole/Patrick both made me feel like they were outsiders and didn't know what was going on/have many allies most the game.
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Ryan wrote:
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Sorry I feel like I need to constantly defend myself cause all y'all think I was Patrick's/Chrissy's puppets and I don't think that at all lol. Literally the only time I did something I didn't want to do was when I voted Jonas.
I don't think it's completely false, but I wouldn't say it's totally true either. We bounced ideas off of each other, but at the end of the day I got my way (until I was voted out)
At our first swap I brought up the idea to form an alliance with Leif and Jonas, we did. Granted it took both of us to work them and get them to potentially vote out Julie, but that was initially my idea.

At the second swap it was an easy vote for both of us cause we were pretty much in the middle between Cole/Patrick and Jonas/Julie.

At the Jonas vote I tried blindsiding you by getting everyone else to vote Kim lol.

After that you went home, so I was never just going along with your plans. I'd love to hear specific examples of why folks think I didn't play my own game, so I can counter lol.
Yeah no I mean you're right. I think I had a bit more sway with the Michael vote because we were kind of between voting him or Julie. I remember saying I felt close to Julie so we should keep her around. I think it was just in our chats your portray yourself as being more of a follower, but now that more stuff has come out, it's not really the case.
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Ryan wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:26:06 am
Chrissy wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:18:15 am
Ryan wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:48:21 am
Sorry I feel like I need to constantly defend myself cause all y'all think I was Patrick's/Chrissy's puppets and I don't think that at all lol. Literally the only time I did something I didn't want to do was when I voted Jonas.
I don't think it's completely false, but I wouldn't say it's totally true either. We bounced ideas off of each other, but at the end of the day I got my way (until I was voted out)
At our first swap I brought up the idea to form an alliance with Leif and Jonas, we did. Granted it took both of us to work them and get them to potentially vote out Julie, but that was initially my idea.

At the second swap it was an easy vote for both of us cause we were pretty much in the middle between Cole/Patrick and Jonas/Julie.

At the Jonas vote I tried blindsiding you by getting everyone else to vote Kim lol.

After that you went home, so I was never just going along with your plans. I'd love to hear specific examples of why folks think I didn't play my own game, so I can counter lol.
I am continually wondering if people would have gone with Kim over me if I had embraced that to help you push it.
I’m inclined to say no, but mayhaps... Or it could have been closer.

That’s one of those plays where if you had had the idol then and really wanted to get your way, you could have given it to me, I play it (so you don’t look like you’re defending me), and then I get a few folks rounded up to vote out who you wanted.

That takes huge trust and so many things, though. And then of course leaves you vulnerable without your idol for the future. Who knows if it anything that big would have worked.
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Ryan wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:26:06 am
Chrissy wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:18:15 am
Ryan wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:48:21 am
Sorry I feel like I need to constantly defend myself cause all y'all think I was Patrick's/Chrissy's puppets and I don't think that at all lol. Literally the only time I did something I didn't want to do was when I voted Jonas.
I don't think it's completely false, but I wouldn't say it's totally true either. We bounced ideas off of each other, but at the end of the day I got my way (until I was voted out)


At our first swap I brought up the idea to form an alliance with Leif and Jonas, we did. Granted it took both of us to work them and get them to potentially vote out Julie, but that was initially my idea.

At the second swap it was an easy vote for both of us cause we were pretty much in the middle between Cole/Patrick and Jonas/Julie.

At the Jonas vote I tried blindsiding you by getting everyone else to vote Kim lol.


After that you went home, so I was never just going along with your plans. I'd love to hear specific examples of why folks think I didn't play my own game, so I can counter lol.
I don’t think Jonas would have ever voted me out. Nice try though.
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Jonas wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:05:40 am
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:26:06 am
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I don't think it's completely false, but I wouldn't say it's totally true either. We bounced ideas off of each other, but at the end of the day I got my way (until I was voted out)
At our first swap I brought up the idea to form an alliance with Leif and Jonas, we did. Granted it took both of us to work them and get them to potentially vote out Julie, but that was initially my idea.

At the second swap it was an easy vote for both of us cause we were pretty much in the middle between Cole/Patrick and Jonas/Julie.

At the Jonas vote I tried blindsiding you by getting everyone else to vote Kim lol.

After that you went home, so I was never just going along with your plans. I'd love to hear specific examples of why folks think I didn't play my own game, so I can counter lol.
I am continually wondering if people would have gone with Kim over me if I had embraced that to help you push it.
I’m inclined to say no, but mayhaps... Or it could have been closer.

That’s one of those plays where if you had had the idol then and really wanted to get your way, you could have given it to me, I play it (so you don’t look like you’re defending me), and then I get a few folks rounded up to vote out who you wanted.

That takes huge trust and so many things, though. And then of course leaves you vulnerable without your idol for the future. Who knows if it anything that big would have worked.
Jonas, please clear up this above comment. About Ryan trying to get you and Leif to vote me out.
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Jonas wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:05:40 am
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:26:06 am
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:18:15 am


I don't think it's completely false, but I wouldn't say it's totally true either. We bounced ideas off of each other, but at the end of the day I got my way (until I was voted out)
At our first swap I brought up the idea to form an alliance with Leif and Jonas, we did. Granted it took both of us to work them and get them to potentially vote out Julie, but that was initially my idea.

At the second swap it was an easy vote for both of us cause we were pretty much in the middle between Cole/Patrick and Jonas/Julie.

At the Jonas vote I tried blindsiding you by getting everyone else to vote Kim lol.

After that you went home, so I was never just going along with your plans. I'd love to hear specific examples of why folks think I didn't play my own game, so I can counter lol.
I am continually wondering if people would have gone with Kim over me if I had embraced that to help you push it.
I’m inclined to say no, but mayhaps... Or it could have been closer.

That’s one of those plays where if you had had the idol then and really wanted to get your way, you could have given it to me, I play it (so you don’t look like you’re defending me), and then I get a few folks rounded up to vote out who you wanted.

That takes huge trust and so many things, though. And then of course leaves you vulnerable without your idol for the future. Who knows if it anything that big would have worked.
It's actually funny you say that. I honestly don't think we could have got the numbers cause I was relying on Cole/Patrick, who obviously didn't want her going.

Cole gave me the clues to his Bambarun idol so I was trying so hard to find it. If I found it I planned on giving him the Bambarun idol and letting him play it so no one knew I saved him, but that was when he was the target. I probably would have done the same with you too, but only if I found the 2nd idol.
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Julie wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:59:09 pm
Jonas wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:05:40 am
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:26:06 am


At our first swap I brought up the idea to form an alliance with Leif and Jonas, we did. Granted it took both of us to work them and get them to potentially vote out Julie, but that was initially my idea.

At the second swap it was an easy vote for both of us cause we were pretty much in the middle between Cole/Patrick and Jonas/Julie.

At the Jonas vote I tried blindsiding you by getting everyone else to vote Kim lol.

After that you went home, so I was never just going along with your plans. I'd love to hear specific examples of why folks think I didn't play my own game, so I can counter lol.
I am continually wondering if people would have gone with Kim over me if I had embraced that to help you push it.
I’m inclined to say no, but mayhaps... Or it could have been closer.

That’s one of those plays where if you had had the idol then and really wanted to get your way, you could have given it to me, I play it (so you don’t look like you’re defending me), and then I get a few folks rounded up to vote out who you wanted.

That takes huge trust and so many things, though. And then of course leaves you vulnerable without your idol for the future. Who knows if it anything that big would have worked.
Jonas, please clear up this above comment. About Ryan trying to get you and Leif to vote me out.
I still don't know what would have happened, but the last plan we had was to split the votes between you and Alan, but Chrissy actually votes you instead of Alan to either stack more votes on you, or to force a 3-3 tie incase they were playing us.
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Ryan wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:03:03 pm
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:59:09 pm
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:05:40 am


I am continually wondering if people would have gone with Kim over me if I had embraced that to help you push it.
I’m inclined to say no, but mayhaps... Or it could have been closer.

That’s one of those plays where if you had had the idol then and really wanted to get your way, you could have given it to me, I play it (so you don’t look like you’re defending me), and then I get a few folks rounded up to vote out who you wanted.

That takes huge trust and so many things, though. And then of course leaves you vulnerable without your idol for the future. Who knows if it anything that big would have worked.
Jonas, please clear up this above comment. About Ryan trying to get you and Leif to vote me out.
I still don't know what would have happened, but the last plan we had was to split the votes between you and Alan, but Chrissy actually votes you instead of Alan to either stack more votes on you, or to force a 3-3 tie incase they were playing us.
Yeah I mentioned pulling a Natalie and saying I wasn't clear on who was voting who
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Ryan wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:03:03 pm
Julie wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:59:09 pm
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:05:40 am


I am continually wondering if people would have gone with Kim over me if I had embraced that to help you push it.
I’m inclined to say no, but mayhaps... Or it could have been closer.

That’s one of those plays where if you had had the idol then and really wanted to get your way, you could have given it to me, I play it (so you don’t look like you’re defending me), and then I get a few folks rounded up to vote out who you wanted.

That takes huge trust and so many things, though. And then of course leaves you vulnerable without your idol for the future. Who knows if it anything that big would have worked.
Jonas, please clear up this above comment. About Ryan trying to get you and Leif to vote me out.
I still don't know what would have happened, but the last plan we had was to split the votes between you and Alan, but Chrissy actually votes you instead of Alan to either stack more votes on you, or to force a 3-3 tie incase they were playing us.
This is indeed what we would have done. We did not want to vote Julie out at all. I DID want to make it to merge with yinz to work with you, though, and was really hoping we wouldn’t have to attempt that plan.

So I would not have voted for Julie. I’m inclined to believe Leif would not have either.

That could have been one fun Council XD.
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Jonas wrote:
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Jonas, please clear up this above comment. About Ryan trying to get you and Leif to vote me out.
I still don't know what would have happened, but the last plan we had was to split the votes between you and Alan, but Chrissy actually votes you instead of Alan to either stack more votes on you, or to force a 3-3 tie incase they were playing us.
This is indeed what we would have done. We did not want to vote Julie out at all. I DID want to make it to merge with yinz to work with you, though, and was really hoping we wouldn’t have to attempt that plan.

So I would not have voted for Julie. I’m inclined to believe Leif would not have either.

That could have been one fun Council XD.
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Jonas wrote:
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Jonas, please clear up this above comment. About Ryan trying to get you and Leif to vote me out.
I still don't know what would have happened, but the last plan we had was to split the votes between you and Alan, but Chrissy actually votes you instead of Alan to either stack more votes on you, or to force a 3-3 tie incase they were playing us.
This is indeed what we would have done. We did not want to vote Julie out at all. I DID want to make it to merge with yinz to work with you, though, and was really hoping we wouldn’t have to attempt that plan.

So I would not have voted for Julie. I’m inclined to believe Leif would not have either.

That could have been one fun Council XD.
We need Leif to come back to solve this mystery
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Ryan wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:12:42 pm
Jonas wrote:
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I still don't know what would have happened, but the last plan we had was to split the votes between you and Alan, but Chrissy actually votes you instead of Alan to either stack more votes on you, or to force a 3-3 tie incase they were playing us.
This is indeed what we would have done. We did not want to vote Julie out at all. I DID want to make it to merge with yinz to work with you, though, and was really hoping we wouldn’t have to attempt that plan.

So I would not have voted for Julie. I’m inclined to believe Leif would not have either.

That could have been one fun Council XD.
We need Leif to come back to solve this mystery
I miss Leif :( he was a cool dude
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Ryan wrote:
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At our first swap I brought up the idea to form an alliance with Leif and Jonas, we did. Granted it took both of us to work them and get them to potentially vote out Julie, but that was initially my idea.

At the second swap it was an easy vote for both of us cause we were pretty much in the middle between Cole/Patrick and Jonas/Julie.

At the Jonas vote I tried blindsiding you by getting everyone else to vote Kim lol.

After that you went home, so I was never just going along with your plans. I'd love to hear specific examples of why folks think I didn't play my own game, so I can counter lol.
I am continually wondering if people would have gone with Kim over me if I had embraced that to help you push it.
I’m inclined to say no, but mayhaps... Or it could have been closer.

That’s one of those plays where if you had had the idol then and really wanted to get your way, you could have given it to me, I play it (so you don’t look like you’re defending me), and then I get a few folks rounded up to vote out who you wanted.

That takes huge trust and so many things, though. And then of course leaves you vulnerable without your idol for the future. Who knows if it anything that big would have worked.
It's actually funny you say that. I honestly don't think we could have got the numbers cause I was relying on Cole/Patrick, who obviously didn't want her going.

Cole gave me the clues to his Bambarun idol so I was trying so hard to find it. If I found it I planned on giving him the Bambarun idol and letting him play it so no one knew I saved him, but that was when he was the target. I probably would have done the same with you too, but only if I found the 2nd idol.
Ahh. Okay. Yeah. Quite unlikely we could have pulled it off then unless I got real convincing with folks...

But thanks, Ryan. I appreciate that. Really wanted to be able to put our alliance to the test and see how long we would hold it.
Sucks that it got tested so quickly and I wanted to believe Kim. You had my back first in that situation (being the first to tell me). Kim definitely got me by bringing the whole thing up and trying to pin it on you.
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Chrissy wrote:
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This is indeed what we would have done. We did not want to vote Julie out at all. I DID want to make it to merge with yinz to work with you, though, and was really hoping we wouldn’t have to attempt that plan.

So I would not have voted for Julie. I’m inclined to believe Leif would not have either.

That could have been one fun Council XD.
We need Leif to come back to solve this mystery
I miss Leif :( he was a cool dude
Find out at a reunion. And yes. Yes he was!
I’m sad he skidaddled.
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I am continually wondering if people would have gone with Kim over me if I had embraced that to help you push it.
I’m inclined to say no, but mayhaps... Or it could have been closer.

That’s one of those plays where if you had had the idol then and really wanted to get your way, you could have given it to me, I play it (so you don’t look like you’re defending me), and then I get a few folks rounded up to vote out who you wanted.

That takes huge trust and so many things, though. And then of course leaves you vulnerable without your idol for the future. Who knows if it anything that big would have worked.
It's actually funny you say that. I honestly don't think we could have got the numbers cause I was relying on Cole/Patrick, who obviously didn't want her going.

Cole gave me the clues to his Bambarun idol so I was trying so hard to find it. If I found it I planned on giving him the Bambarun idol and letting him play it so no one knew I saved him, but that was when he was the target. I probably would have done the same with you too, but only if I found the 2nd idol.
Ahh. Okay. Yeah. Quite unlikely we could have pulled it off then unless I got real convincing with folks...

But thanks, Ryan. I appreciate that. Really wanted to be able to put our alliance to the test and see how long we would hold it.
Sucks that it got tested so quickly and I wanted to believe Kim. You had my back first in that situation (being the first to tell me). Kim definitely got me by bringing the whole thing up and trying to pin it on you.
It's crazy how much pull she had, especially since you never went to tribal with her and was away from her most the game. Just speaks to how good her social game was.
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It's actually funny you say that. I honestly don't think we could have got the numbers cause I was relying on Cole/Patrick, who obviously didn't want her going.

Cole gave me the clues to his Bambarun idol so I was trying so hard to find it. If I found it I planned on giving him the Bambarun idol and letting him play it so no one knew I saved him, but that was when he was the target. I probably would have done the same with you too, but only if I found the 2nd idol.
Ahh. Okay. Yeah. Quite unlikely we could have pulled it off then unless I got real convincing with folks...

But thanks, Ryan. I appreciate that. Really wanted to be able to put our alliance to the test and see how long we would hold it.
Sucks that it got tested so quickly and I wanted to believe Kim. You had my back first in that situation (being the first to tell me). Kim definitely got me by bringing the whole thing up and trying to pin it on you.
It's crazy how much pull she had, especially since you never went to tribal with her and was away from her most the game. Just speaks to how good her social game was.
yeah, kim was indeed a bad ass. she was so dynamic in her social game, i feel like she could talk up anyone and make them love her.
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Jonas, please clear up this above comment. About Ryan trying to get you and Leif to vote me out.
I still don't know what would have happened, but the last plan we had was to split the votes between you and Alan, but Chrissy actually votes you instead of Alan to either stack more votes on you, or to force a 3-3 tie incase they were playing us.
This is indeed what we would have done. We did not want to vote Julie out at all. I DID want to make it to merge with yinz to work with you, though, and was really hoping we wouldn’t have to attempt that plan.

So I would not have voted for Julie. I’m inclined to believe Leif would not have either.

That could have been one fun Council XD.
See! I told y’all hoes that Jonas wouldn’t vote for me.
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It's actually funny you say that. I honestly don't think we could have got the numbers cause I was relying on Cole/Patrick, who obviously didn't want her going.

Cole gave me the clues to his Bambarun idol so I was trying so hard to find it. If I found it I planned on giving him the Bambarun idol and letting him play it so no one knew I saved him, but that was when he was the target. I probably would have done the same with you too, but only if I found the 2nd idol.
Ahh. Okay. Yeah. Quite unlikely we could have pulled it off then unless I got real convincing with folks...

But thanks, Ryan. I appreciate that. Really wanted to be able to put our alliance to the test and see how long we would hold it.
Sucks that it got tested so quickly and I wanted to believe Kim. You had my back first in that situation (being the first to tell me). Kim definitely got me by bringing the whole thing up and trying to pin it on you.
It's crazy how much pull she had, especially since you never went to tribal with her and was away from her most the game. Just speaks to how good her social game was.
Yeah. I really liked her as a person and didn't want to believe at the time that she might be duping me!
She did good, for sure.
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I still don't know what would have happened, but the last plan we had was to split the votes between you and Alan, but Chrissy actually votes you instead of Alan to either stack more votes on you, or to force a 3-3 tie incase they were playing us.
This is indeed what we would have done. We did not want to vote Julie out at all. I DID want to make it to merge with yinz to work with you, though, and was really hoping we wouldn’t have to attempt that plan.

So I would not have voted for Julie. I’m inclined to believe Leif would not have either.

That could have been one fun Council XD.
See! I told y’all hoes that Jonas wouldn’t vote for me.
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