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Ali's Final Tribal Council Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:05:41 pm
by Jeff Probst
Ali,
Here you can address the jury with your question or statement. You should keep it to one post that they can reply to. Try to include all of your questions/statement in this post and save any rebuttals or further questioning for the live council on Sunday.
Please do not ask the final three to go down any long lists, keep in mind that each question takes a very long time to properly answer and asking too much can be tedious.
The floor is now yours! Please post your questions/statements before Saturday at 8c/9e.
Re: Ali's Final Tribal Council Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:09:47 pm
by Ali
Congrats Final 3!
Kim, I am impressed with your game at times, but one side note. I thought Cole was trolling during the rock vote at F8 but he confirmed that he just forgot to vote in his confessional/forgot to vote/assumed his public vote would count, and that he would have voted you out at F8. This important fact hasn't come up during this final tribal council but he confirmed that you would've left at F8 if it was a public vote which he thought it was. Anyway, my question is, what went into your decision making in not aiming for Christina during my boot and other points within the game?
Simone...You just weren't around much. I do think you were fairly strategic but it seems like I can't find much you did that stands out individually. Not one thing I can decipher that you did on your own. Tell me one thing you did individually where it advanced your own personal game and not an alliance, duo, etc.
Christina, congrats and well earned. You definitely deserve to be there but you're game wasn't perfect. If you have any regrets, what would it be and why?
Re: Ali's Final Tribal Council Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:48:28 pm
by Christina
~*Christina’s Response to Ali*~
Christina, congrats and well earned. You definitely deserve to be there but you're game wasn't perfect. If you have any regrets, what would it be and why?
My biggest regret would be winning the first three immunity challenges of merge (Bill/Jonas/Chrissy boots). I should have thrown these challenges and just kept the idol in my pocket. I think having the idol and winning the immunity challenges tanked any chance of playing a strategic under the radar game. I had to change my entire game up and take control, and advantage, of my visible/in your face game that people feared. However, I would have rather played this game with less visibility if I could have.
Thanks for this question, and feel free to ask me anything else if needed! Good luck with your decision.
Re: Ali's Final Tribal Council Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:48:45 pm
by Kim
Kim, I am impressed with your game at times, but one side note. I thought Cole was trolling during the rock vote at F8 but he confirmed that he just forgot to vote in his confessional/forgot to vote/assumed his public vote would count, and that he would have voted you out at F8. This important fact hasn't come up during this final tribal council but he confirmed that you would've left at F8 if it was a public vote which he thought it was. Anyway, my question is, what went into your decision making in not aiming for Christina during my boot and other points within the game?
Lol girl I wish Cole had been trolling. I've brushed on this a little bit in my other answers and literally my only defense to this is that Cole misinterpreted the rules fair and square. I think it counts for something that he voted with me against Roark in the first place and then continued to try and sway Matt/Ryan over. Honestly though, at the end of the day, I don't think Cole flipped on me because he didn't trust me or anything like that; I just don't believe he would go to rocks for anyone if it meant giving up his safety in the game. I can't blame him because he was probably in one of the best positions in the game and rocks threw that all away. Again, it's not like he flipped on me immediately and just forgot to vote or something, he didn't try to flip on me until the very end. Jeff did say you don't have to change your revote UNLESS you are switching your vote so if you want to use it as a strike against me, fair, but just know it's not my fault that I'm still here.
As for your vote out, I was 100% pushing for you to stay here and for Christina to go home. I kept telling people that the chances she played her idol were low and so the plan was to split the votes with Christina going home. I wanted this plan because I believed that I could have worked with you going forward in the game whereas there were a lot more obstacles with Christina. Trust me, I was an avid supporter of voting Christina out at multiple points in the game, but her immunity wins and idol made that very difficult to do. The reason you went home at that tribal instead of Christina was because people got too paranoid that Christina would catch wind of the plan and use her idol and someone would have messed up the split vote. Patrick told me since it was his name on the line that he felt a lot more comfortable voting for you and not trying to make sure the split vote plan worked. I mentioned this in some of my other posts, but I felt that Patrick was someone who I could legitimately trust and I wanted to go the distance with him. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices so that your allies feel like they have a say in what goes on. I talked about how I defended the people who I was loyal to (Simone/Patrick/Cole) and this was a prime example of where I showed my loyalty. In hindsight, we should have got rid of Christina, but it's too little too late and now we're both here at the end so I mean it wasn't necessarily a bad move, but probably the move I think I regret not making the most. Obviously it's impossible to expect that someone will win seven immunities and have an idol as a backup so at the time, it was more of a "better luck next time" sort of thing, but we all see how that turned out. I hope this answers your question and clears up how voting you out was definitely my biggest mistake in this game and I'm owning it. I wanted to work with you and I gave that up so I could keep my other relationships solid.
Re: Ali's Final Tribal Council Thread
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:07:34 am
by Simone
Pushing for you to leave is something I did on my own. Ryan was telling me everything you were saying to him about our conversation so I decided to test you. I said I want the F4 of you, me, Christina and Kim and it took you .5 seconds for you to tell him and then .5 seconds for him to tell me. You even said to him "Is Simone acting funny to you" because I was throwing out all this random stuff to see if you'd tell him. I know we weren't exactly super close or anything but I was intending on working with you. I feel like you had this amazing ability to get information out of people and then be super strategic by what you give back to them. Then the talk was to blindside Christina because of the obvious public idol but I found you to be way much more of a threat because you were in the exact position as me. People saw you in Christina's shadow and you had all the same inter locking connections I had. You were a stealth player like I was and voting for you was an easier sell because Christina would have never thought to play the idol on you. This is a game of numbers... no one can play this game solely individually. You need one, two sometimes three strong allies to get things done and create a core of trust. Sure there are the Patrick's and Kim's who end up becoming "faces" of an alliance for whatever reasons but I put in a lot of work at times to get what I needed and wanted because they all had individual trust in me and in that group of four, I was all their number ones. I was always here, me not being here much if you're referring to live events then yes it wasn't a perfect track record... but I was always here to chat.
Re: Ali's Final Tribal Council Thread
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:16:56 am
by Ali
Thanks for the answers guys but you do realize I was the Christina vote during my boot, right?
Re: Ali's Final Tribal Council Thread
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:21:01 am
by Kim
Ali wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:16:56 am
Thanks for the answers guys but you do realize I was the Christina vote during my boot, right?
I for one did not know that and now I'm interested
Re: Ali's Final Tribal Council Thread
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:44:51 am
by Ali
Some more things I wanted to address but I addressed most of it in the jury forum regarding Christina’s social game. Christina was ranked No.1 on her original tribe and hit it out of the park with me on Atitaya so much that I dropped my plans of blindsiding her and that idol. When Christina took that public idol most of original Bamburan discussed how much of a threat she was and needed to go soon.
After I was voted out, it would’ve been too forced for her having small talk with the lines of Patrick and Cole because they all knew where each other stood. She was vulnerable at 7 tribal councils and nobody took a strike.
And, her best ally is the only vote she got the entire season. Also, I had no plans sticking with Christina until the end and I always feared that I’d be collateral damage either because she won immunity or idol fear. But, I suggested that split vote between Patrick and Cole the night I left in hopes that you guys felt confident voting Christina during a split. I also was really annoyed that Christina spilled our plan to Kim of all people and then Simone.
However, if Christina was voted out that night I still would’ve been pissed especially if it wasn’t revealed to me prior.
Re: Ali's Final Tribal Council Thread
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:14:37 am
by Ali
#TeamChristina4ever